Well today Charles posted a link from media matters hitting Rush:
I left the following comment:
Ah George Soros’ Media matters, I never thought I’d see the day when it would be quoted with approval here.
I listed to the show that day. Rush was purposely being sarcastic as he regularly does, pointing out absurdity by being absurd.
But hey if you want to take Soros’ line on it, that’s your call, your blog, your nickel.
A fellow named Dark Falcon left this comment:
re: #908 pingemi
I already responded to that argument:
re: #91 Dark_Falcon
Charles didn’t quote any commentary from MM. All he did was post a clip they made available from Limbaugh’s show. I despise David Brock, but in this case Brock was not wrong in posting the vid. That said, I would trust Brock’s opinions on the matter any further than I could throw an T-90.
In case you haven’t read any of my amazon reviews PIngemi is me.
I started to work on a long reply. I search the LGF archives and noted the dates and made a long post with many links, all of them from LGF, but when I hit “post comment” suddenly I found myself logged out and my comments deleted, and my account blocked.
As I said in the other comment, it’s Charles blog and he can keep or lose who he wants, but I’m going to make my answer here with the comment I was going to leave.
re: #912 BigPapa
To illustrate other absurdity, for example he has talked about graduation ceremonies where multiculturalists have said it is proper to have a Black graduation and a “Hispanic” graduation.
It also illustrated the absurdity of some who thought the election of the president was going to take race out of other equations.
And this blog has amply chronicled Media Matters has such a history of doing it’s best to represent the right accurately.
Look at the dates on that link. It’s very interesting but it would appear that from the time that Media matters backed Charles in his dispute with Beck Charles hasn’t had a tagged post going after media matters for anything. Nor the Daily Kos for that matter, and only one tagged moonbats. (it was a good one)
And no tagged post hitting Media Matters Godfather George Soros for over a year.
He once talked about the six degrees of George Soros, and now it’s only one.
It’s rather amazing that for all that time these guys haven’t don’t anything weird enough for Charles to post and illustrate, and even the one moonbat post concerns stuff done in years past.
Have they suddenly become all sane? Have they all suddenly decided to support the troops? Have they all suddenly decided to support Israel? And wasn’t it just under a year ago that this blog highlighted Rush turning an insult into 2 million dollars for the Children of fallen soldiers?
C’mon guys we know Rush and media matters, history didn’t begin in April of this year.
Again it’s Charles Blog, I’t not for me to tell him what to post but nobody’s going to tell me Honorary Lizzardoid Rush has suddenly become Richard Russell.
One point of clarification in the above post “this blog” refers to lgf.
And my apologies to Big Papa as I wasn’t able to properly respond to him.
I did not request for my account to be blocked nor my comments deleted. I did not flounce. I don’t know if Charles noted that I was searching his tags for the above items or if he just didn’t like the first comment, but common courtesy would demand that one is informed before being banned by at least an e-mail. This is one of the advantages to actually having a life being banned by LGF will not lose me any sleep.
As the Cid said to Prince Alphonso:
Sire you risk having no Spain at all
I will have a full parody translation up before the end of the week.
I’m still going to put up that common principles post, and still ask Charles via e-mail if he wants to sign it when I do.
I’ll pray for him you should too.
Update: But as Robert Stacy mentioned last week I have a sick sense of humor and I intend to have a lot of fun with this before I get bored with it.
Update 2: I see that the green room has an official LGF thread as a place to do our Charles Venting, It woudn’t do to for us to catch Sullivan’s syndrome over all this. After all every moment not on LGF is a moment that can be spent reading 30 year vet David Carden’s new book The Army Insider.
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I haven’t quite figured out how to reply to Big Papa … Should I just post your link here and get banned myself?
Frankly – with what I see there, it would be no loss, I am quite afraid.
However you wish to do so, but don’t feel obliged to be banned on my account.
If you feel the link might get you into hot water feel free to send my respectful regards to my fellow lizards.
I appreciate the honest response however we’re on different wavelengths at the moment. LGF going after MM or Soros at this point is not relevant: Rush’s monologue and it’s race baiting is. Everyone gets that its sarcasm: it’s bad sarcasm and still it is race baiting. It’s just bad and detracts from core conservative causes. I listened to Rush for years all through the 90’s and sill occasionally hear him: he’s a man, not a saint. He’s fallible.
Nothing more than that.
Valid point, however the arguments would be more effective and have more meat if three lizzards weren’t banned for defending Rush today.
Let me say it is very honorable of you to leave a comment here to answer me. It is most appreciated and it won’t be forgotten.
Please give my warmest regards and best wishes to the other lizards.
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It’ fine to say that Rush’s sarcasm is “bad and detracts from core conservative causes,” But that isn’t what Media Matters does. They put it out there as NOT being sarcasm. They distort the meaning. It’s what they do. It’s why I have no respect for them
If one wants to make an argument against Rush or anything, then do it on it’s merits. Don’t mislead and distort.
Exactly right, in fact one of the mistakes the left constantly makes is to make a polemic argument when a sensible one would work.
Of course for Charles in this particular case his argument would be much stronger if he hadn’t spent years insisting that these guys couldn’t be trusted.
greetings :)
I listened to Rush’s show that day, too, and it was clearly sarcasm. In fact, if I recall, Rush even said that he was giving Libs alot of material to take out of context that day.
That was the very last day I logged onto LGF, and I wasn’t at all surprised to find a CJ post saying Rush was race baiting and going on about how despicable it was. When I saw that, I realized that was the same exact post I could have read at Kos or Huffington Post. I never thought I’d see the day when CJ’s point of view runs parallel to left wing trash.
happy bloggin’ :)
I think Charles knows that too, I really don’t understand. It seems that when Beck hit him he just snapped, a lot differently than how he usually handles things. A good barometer is to see what LGF watch says about him, if he is trying to make friends in the other direction it isn’t working.
As I don’t know Charles I socially I don’t know if there are other things going on that can be affecting stuff. it’s just kinda sad to watch it all happen.
Unlike Robert Stacy it’s isn’t a matter of honor, he didn’t slander me, so I’m just going to poke fun at him a bit over it, I hope whatever is eating him eventually works itself out.
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Chuckles Leftie Johnson is a deranged Kalifornian… I de-linked him a yr ago.
Well he certainly is acting odd, but I am pleased to say he hasn’t given up on the war on terror or Israel.
Ya take what ya can and you argue with the rest.
It’s ironic that many are comparing CJ to the left. What’s actually happening is the right is acting just like the left has for years. CJ is merely making that point and this is the crap he gets for it. Media Matters is not the issue here at all: bypassing their input and going to the actual manuscripts and watching the video of the monologue is where the real information is.
I listened to Rush’s whole monologue that day just to be sure he wasn’t taken out of context: I didn’t need to. I get his sarcasm and nuance because I’ve listened to him for a long time: it was still race baiting and it wasn’t funny. Many are too vested in the persona to accept any criticism of the man and he is due for it this time.
As for CJ and all the ridicule and outright misinformation about what is happening at LGF: nobody got banned for ‘defending Rush.’ I was there and watched the whole thing go down and that’s not my take at all. They got banned for bad manners, dissing CJ on his own blog or insulting others. That’s why they got the boot: it has nothing to do with the subject at hand. The was a much larger contingent of lizards still holding the ‘he’s just sarcasm’ line who didn’t get banned. Many did not hold the same opinion of Rush the CJ and some others did and their still lizards. That’s the facts.
What’s really happening here is the right is in la la land right now. CJ is merely the messenger. I’ve voted Red my whole life and I’m as conservative as anybody: the Right has serious problems right now. Attacking CJ is shooting the messenger.
I have to disagree with you on that one. My initial comment on the Rush issue was deleted when I was banned but it certainly didn’t rise to the level you were describing, in fact I didn’t know I was banned until I tried to put up my follow-up comment and found myself logged out.
Also if Charles was simply holding the right to the same standard he does to the left why the particular timing? I would point you to my follow up posts here and here concerning timing and Irony.
As I’ve said, I’ve never met or talked to Charles, he might be a very nice guy. I’m more than pleased to have him as an ally even now on both Israel and the War on Terror. I would love to have him sign my statement of common principles (you are welcome to do so too). I’ve defended him in the past and will agree with him when he is right.
But I think his current actions are due more to spite than anything else, that’s just my opinion. I saw his stuff and I talked to Robert Stacy McCain and given what I’ve seen and heard I’m going to have to take Robert’s side over his.
Like the 20% who once approved of the president who now do not. The people who no longer support Charles didn’t suddenly become wrong or racist or nutjobs overnight. Rush didn’t go from Rush Limbaugh, Honorary Lizardoid to racist overnight either. The timing seems to suggest that once Beck hit him any ally of beck or once removed ally of Beck is to be suspect. It reminds me of an Aunt of mine who is rapidly running out of people she will talk to.
Something has changed and the logical conclusion is that it is Charles.
But you never know I haven’t given up on him, I’ll tease him a bit but hey we all have our faults. If his attacks on the right get some liberals to take his posts on the war on terror seriously maybe it will work out in the end.
I’ll say a prayer for him and keep an eye open. When I see him willing to hit the left and Soros like he used to then I might change my mind but until then, I’ll remain in happy exile and just have to wish you all the best in your personal lives.
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