Posts Tagged ‘science’

I noticed Jazz Shaw’s post on Evolution linking to Steve Benen “look how dumb those Christians are” post, and Stacy McCain’s answer..

Forgetting the fact that Mr. Benen apparently wants to put a religious test on who can serve in congress and forgetting his seeming ignorance concerning Christianity’s history and science. I suggest he buy a copy of How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization (my review here no wonder the left hates Western Civilization so much but I digress).

I’ve already made my point in this post about the Bible and science:

In our science we basically have educated guesses in pursuit of truth. As time and our knowledge expands our guesses become better and more informed but in the end a lot of it is still a guess, yet these guesses are a million times better than Moses would ever be able to make. If our science would be beyond Moses, how much more beyond him would be the actual methods of how God works explained on a scientific level?

It is my opinion that God gave Moses the answers that were truthful, but also in a way that he and his people, bronze age humans could understand and grasp. Like at the waters of Massah and Meribah he didn’t give him a thesis on Hydrogen and Oxygen atoms combined to create water, he didn’t give a geological explanation of how steams wear down soil and cause erosion, he provided the water.

It doesn’t matter for example if the entire world was flooded in Noah’s time, or if it was an individual continent, or just a country the size of Iraq or whatever. In the understanding of Noah it was the world, and in the understanding of Moses it was the world. It makes it no less the action of God nor do the lessons drawn from it change. It is no different than trying to explain to a 3 year old how something works, you tell him the truth but in a way that he can grasp it.

Now as I said Science is a question of our best educated guess, but many people try to use it as a club to attack Christianity in general and the Bible in particular as Stacy puts it:

Having spent quite some time studying the arguments over evolution, it has for many years struck me that while the scientific priesthood of neo-Darwinian orthodoxy in astrophysics, paleontology and anthropology often disagree vehemently over their own theories and interpretations, they are united by one major agreement: The Bible is wrong.

On that point, they are quite fanatical, and one need not debate fanatics. Merely demonstrate that they are fanatics — occasionally point out their more obvious errors, provoking their predictably intemperate responses — and you will discredit them in the eyes of reasonable people.

I think people often confuse “natural selection” and survival and the fittest, which is certainly scientifically sound and full blown evolution the creation of one species from another.

The second has several problems the biggest of which for me is the math.

Here is what you need for evolution of that nature to work:

  1. You need some kind of mutation.
  2. Said mutation needs to be a beneficial mutation so it doesn’t increase the likely hood of the creature caught by a predator.
  3. You need a mutation that doesn’t prevent breeding with a similar creature
  4. The result of that breed must carry said mutation so it has to be dominant trait
  5. Continual breeding has to take place so that dominant trait spreads until all members of the species without that dominant trait disappear.
  6. Repeat until an amoeba becomes Snooki from Jersey Shore.

Now think about the mathematical odds of each of those steps and imagine the development of a claw from a fin.  Think of NOTHING else, just that single development.  What would the mathematical odds of each step taking place? How many times would the dice have to fall a particular way for that to happen just for that step to take place? What are the odds of such a thing happening by chance and not just by chance, but over and over again for every species that is out there?

Is that possible, sure. I believe in God, with such a God something like this is very possible, what I find amazing is that those who are so vehement in denying the existence of God are willing to bet their reputations on a process that mathematically is so unlikely that they’d never bet real money on it.

I submit that if you believe in Evolution you almost HAVE to believe in God because the odds of such a process taking place without him are so slight as to be nil.

Or to put it another way. You can have God without evolution, but considering the odds involved I submit you can’t have evolution without God.

Now is it really important? Not really, It’s an interesting scientific discussion and like anything such scientific discussion you go where the evidence takes you. We keep researching, we find clues and make assumptions based on them, test them, and repeat. That’s fine. Religion of course doesn’t need to explain the nuts and bolts of how a universe is created, it’s primary job is to save souls. These goals aren’t mutually exclusive and we need to remember what science and religion’s purposes are:

Man didn’t need God to provide him a science text, man can write those texts himself. Man did need instruction on the salvation of his soul. God provided that and still provides it through Scripture, prayer, the Church and Tradition. We can take advantage of those things provided or not. It’s totally up to us.

I await to see Steve Benen’s piece attacking the scientific ignorance of Islam.

When I see stories like this one I’m convinced that the only reason why the current White House hasn’t gotten behind this idea is that they can’t be sure how they will vote:

“We affirm that all cetaceans as persons have the right to life, liberty and wellbeing,” they said in a declaration after a two-day meeting led by the Whale and Dolphin Conservation Society (WDCS).

Oh and it gets better wales have ethics

He said that sperm whales have sonars to find fish that are so powerful that they could permanently deafen others nearby if used at full blast. Yet the whales do not use sonars as weapons, showing what Whitehead called a human-like “sense of morality.”

Liberty pundit adds the snark:

Right to life, liberty, and well-being? You mean, like, health care? Do we give them food stamps if the schools of smaller fish they so mercilessly eat by the hundreds thin out for a season? Do we require colonoscopies and breast-cancer screenings? Do we make abortion services available? Shouldn’t killer whales be culpable for their criminal acts when they kill a dolphin?

Are we going to stop at whales? Here’s the indication that we won’t: Participants at a University of Helsinki conference said ever more studies show the giant marine mammals have human-like self-awareness, an ability to communicate and organize complex societies, making them similar to some great apes.

Apes. Monkeys. Whales. Dolphins.

Is this going to lead to voting rights? Is that what’s behind this?

How long before the Massachusetts Supreme Court gets a brief concerning Whale Rights? Will they be eligible for heathcare and drivers licenses?

It takes an awful lot of education to be this foolish.

Let’s take a peek around a few blogs in the field guide:

We will start with Cynthia Yockey who explained what liberal taxation did to a once thriving film industry in Maryland:

Maryland’s film industry caught my eye. Not too long ago, the Baltimore-Washington area was third in the country after Los Angeles and New York for film and TV production. However, thanks to Democratic Gov. Martin O’Malley and a Democratic-majority legislature full of believers in high taxes and big government — who also, disastrously, have no comprehension whatsoever of the concept of competition, or the remotest inkling that they were in one where the film business was concerned AND WINNING — Maryland’s film industry has been almost completely destroyed

The mindset was explained thusly:

“It’s like, if I gave you one dollar and you gave me back 20 cents, you’d still have made 80 cents. But the state doesn’t think of it as making 80 cents. They just think, ‘Hey, we gave you 20 cents!‘”

Not the best news plan if you want to create jobs, does anyone else have a different plan?

At American Freedom Barbara Espinosa is not thrilled with the president of Mexico these days:

How will drones be able to stop the violence, sure it can pinpoint a location and take a picture? The use of drones will help law enforcement patrol the border more effectively.. That is a big problem the real conservatives have with the GOP.
Build the fence and push for it. All Democrats are trying to do is acquire a new voting populace. He has no intention of enforcing existing laws. And Calderon is NOT on our side. What has he done to take care of his own populace? What has he done to create jobs, REALLY fight the corruption? I call BS and if you really represent us, you will too.

She has some VERY GRAPHIC EXAMPLES of what is going on just over the border.

The Lonely Conservative’s headline and first paragraph says it all:

Millions of Deaths Be Damned! Dalai Lama is Still a Marxist!. No wonder his people live in exile and poverty. Ironic that they’re in exile from a Marxist land. When it comes to Marxist ideology common sense never has been in vogue.

You would think Tibet never happened. Robert Stacy has a suggestion.

Meanwhile on a different subject Andrea of the Job corps fraud blog finds the bugs in the system bedbugs that is:

While trolling the internet for buried stories about Job Corps mis-management I found a Facebook Page called The Scupper. This is no ordinary page mind you, its author is apparently a student/staff who wanted to share the truth behind the bed bug infestation at Flint/Genesee Job Corps Center… The Scupper’s site is replete with pictures and information that has so far been successfully white-washed by its “business community liaison ” Verona Terry. She/he did a great job downplaying the seriousness of the situation and minimizing the size and scope of the infestation.

It certainly doesn’t inspire confidence.

and finally speaking of confidence DaScienceGuy notes a problem with people who fund research:

What bothers me is that I have been reading a lot of history books. There is no doubt in my mind that scientists, engineerings, experimentalists, etc are responsible for things like the wheel, things like the laser….All manner of stuff.

Modern day politicians and companies have the folks who fund this research so scared that if a project doesn’t work they’ll be fired that you almost can’t get research funded that is anywhere risky. You almost have to prove it will work before you can get funding to make it work.

How do you make REAL progress doing this. Sure you can make incremental progress made but real revolutionary process can’t be done.

Of course it would be a lot easier to fund science if people weren’t making stuff up.

My review through the Amazon Vine program of the Book The Science of Doctor Who due to be released May 27th 2010 is available at Amazon.com here.

I actually got this book in the middle of lent and only finished it recently. It really wasn’t worth waiting months for.