That sentence says an awful lot

Posted: January 24, 2011 in internet/free speech, opinion/news, war
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Now it is one of the seven corporal acts of mercy to visit the imprisoned. So I certainly can’t fault someone for visiting a person in jail, and if Firedoglake and Greenwald want to bemoan Manning’s treatment that is certainly their call and of course as a blogger I have no issue with citizen journalists covering a story.

But the Washington Post has an interesting description of the firedoglake folks who went to visit Bradley Manning in this story.

Two backers of a jailed Army private suspected of passing classified documents to the WikiLeaks website say their car was towed after they arrived at a Marine base to visit him.

David House and blogger Jane Hamsher say in a statement they had not had problems previously driving onto the Quantico base. But they say they were detained and unable to visit Army Pfc. Bradley Manning on Sunday.emphasis mine

“Backers”; that is the key word. Manning (and lets give the presumption of innocence) is accused of leaking classified documents in wartime to a foreign national who put them out there harming the US and risking lives. When they are backing Manning, it’s not because they think is wrongly accused, it’s because they don’t support the war and support any action that might cause our retreat.

Let’s make it clear. They do not back him because they think he is innocent. They back him because they believe he is guilty.

As Glenn Reynolds has said many times. They are not anti-war, they are on the other side and we are deluding ourselves if we think differently.

Comments
  1. Robbins Mitchell says:

    Well,anybody who has been paying attention knows that Jane Hamsher is nothing but a treasonous left wing vagina and has been for a long time

  2. Leahcim says:

    From the Post story: “Quantico spokesman Col. Thomas V. Johnson says the car was towed after the pair could not provide proof of insurance and guards found the vehicle’s license plates had expired.”

    If these two think they were singled out for special treatment because of the vehicle issues — Nope. It does not matter who you are, getting a Visitors Pass to any military base requires; insurance and the vehicle meeting state requirements (tags, inspection, etc.). If you don’t have it and your not up to date, you will not get on base.

    SOP is to send the car/driver off base to find documents and/or correct defects. The fact that their vehicle was towed infers that someone’s attitude turned toward ass-hattery.

  3. SSG Christopher Whitaker says:

    It shames me that Manning (no, he doesn’t deserve even an honorific rank) was in MY Brigade (2nd BDE, 10th MTN) and his leaks occurred during our last deployment. It truly blows my mind that ANYONE could support this little piece of human garbage. He does not deserve visitors, adn I wish they would hurry up, convict and subsequently execute him. Unfortuantely, I have a nasty feeling that he will end up as a political pawn and his sentence will be comminuted somehow.

  4. LarryD says:

    Re: Leachims post. I’d give about 50-50 odds that House and Hamsher provoked the ass-hattery by acting all privileged and entitled.

    Next best guess is that the guards understood that they are hostile personnel and, when they found out the the vehicles plates were expired, decided to cut them no slack whatsoever.

  5. Mikey NTH says:

    They will back him right up to the point that he ceases to be useful.

  6. Col.R says:

    Fillin’ for Hanoi Jane.

  7. Brian Levene says:

    In the country I grew up in, we treat people as innocent until they are proven guilty in a court of law.

    What country did you grow up in?

  8. Treasonous? A conservative who throws around the kinds of insults that “Robbins Mitchell” just lobbed does more harm to the conservative movements than a dozen Jane Hamshers. Disgusting.

  9. Firehand says:

    To borrow from someone, “They’re not for peace; they’re on the other side.”

  10. U2 says:

    Actually, the term “backers” was used by an AP writer. Probably correctly and probably because it takes one to know one.

  11. jgreene says:

    Execution sounds about right for me. This traitor deserves swift justice.

  12. richard40 says:

    If a car with expired plates, and no insurance, is parked at a military base, it would be towed no matter who owns it. I was a former USAF officer, and if my car had the same problems, it would have been towed too. This is a typical example of 2 bitter lefties looking for something to complain about, and attempting to create a grievance when their was none, and when in reality they were treated completely fairly.

  13. Maggi says:

    Long story short – a former boyfriend was a highly honored homicide detective in our large midwestern city; we went to visit my son at Ft Bragg. Boyfriend did NOT bring required documents, as he had been forwarned about, because his assumption was his ID and job would get us past any required paperwork. NOPE. After a 14-hour drive with two toddlers in tow, we had to wait in the car while said former boyfriend called back home to have papers found and faxed to guardhouse. You need your stuff squared away to drive on any base. Period.

  14. […] That sentence says an awful lot “Backers”; that is the key word. Manning (and lets give the presumption of innocence) is accused of leaking classified documents in wartime to a foreign national who put them out there harming the US and risking lives. When they are backing Manning, it’s not because they think is wrongly accused, it’s because they don’t support the war and support any action that might cause our retreat. […]

  15. Andrew B says:

    My father, while courting my mother in the 1950’s, spent a lot of time with lower Manhattan, trust fund Communists. He asked one of them once, as she prepared for another rally, if she truly believed the Rosenbergs were innocent. She looked at him as if he were an especially dull child.

    “Of COURSE we know they’re guilty. That’s why we support them!”, she explained.

    Some things never change.

  16. […] That sentence says an awful lot Now it is one of the seven corporal acts of mercy to visit the imprisoned. So I certainly can’t fault someone for […] […]

  17. Peter says:

    Not that there was an internet back when I wore Uncle’s suit but back then I would have been visited only by my lawyer and maybe my next of kin. And those only during those rare times when I was not showing signs of having fallen in the shower and suchlike accidents.

  18. Doug Cooper says:

    “Innocent until proven guilty” only applies to a court of law. We correctly, daily, make all kinds of judgments about who did what without having a jury trial.

  19. Doug Cooper says:

    You should tell commenters “your comment is being evaluated” rather than “awaiting moderation,” as though in time it would become less extreme.