West vs East Men vs Woman

Posted: January 23, 2011 by datechguy in culture
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A person my age or older would be familiar with the term “Shotgun Wedding”. The idea being that a man who got a girl pregnant would be forced by the father of the girl, Shotgun in hand to the altar for the wedding. That line of thinking is in keeping with the idea Stacy McCain advanced about the the economics of love. Roxeanne DeLuca in comments also advanced this very Judeao-Christian idea:

These days, men think there’s just women you sleep with, that’s it. And pardon me if I think that, as a WOMAN, I should have the grounds to say, “If this isn’t emotional for you, if you could do this with any woman, or any woman with the right equipment and the right attitude, then I don’t want it from you.”

As it is, though, we’re expected to act like prostitutes, without the benefits and without the emotional reserve. When sexually loose women are “nice girls”, or tell you that they are, men WILL expect ALL nice women to be sexually loose.

The 60’s revolution ended this bigtime and some are still paying the price but there is one thing about this way of thinking that needs to be pointed out.

The entire idea of the shotgun wedding or the threat of the shotgun wedding is to protect the women and restrain the man. The idea being the man might think twice before trying to be a player if he know that it means he will have to follow through.

In this age of contraception and abortion those restraints are gone and the feminists of the left cheer this abandonment of the traditional Judeao-Christian meme as a triumph for women no matter the result.

There is however another side of the coin that the feminist left isn’t too loud in condemning.

Afshan Azad, 21, who played Padma Patil, a classmate of the teenage wizard, in the blockbuster Hollywood films based on JK Rowling’s children’s books, feared for her life during the three-hour ordeal, Manchester Crown Court heard.

She was punched, dragged around by her hair and strangled by her brother Ashraf Azad, 28, who threatened to kill her after he caught her talking on the phone to her Hindu boyfriend on May 21 last year, the court was told.

During the row at the family home in Longsight, Manchester, which also involved her mother and father, she was branded a ”slag” and a ”prostitute” and told: ”Marry a Muslim or you die!”

Note the cultural difference here. The threats are not against the man, they are against the woman. The threat of violence is not against the man for the advances, it is against the woman. Either way the Judge hearing the case decided to make a statement about violence against women:

Judge Thomas added: ”This is a sentence that is designed to punish you for what you did and also to send out a clear message to others that domestic violence involving circumstances such as have arisen here cannot be tolerated.”

And so he sentenced the guy to….for six months after he pleaded guilty to the assault.

As Cubachi points out:

This is attempted murder, and he’s only getting six months? Azad’s case is well known throughout the world due to her celebrity status, however, this is occurring to young Muslim girls throughout the world who are deemed too “Westernized” or a betrayer to Islam.

Some on the right have highlighted this kind of thing, the left…not so much. Why the difference in reaction to the Judeao-Christian cultural norm and not the Islamic one? Why is one a sign of repressive patriarchy and the other just a cultural difference and any objection Islamaphobia?

It’s a good question and I’d love to hear the answer.

  1. Steve says:

    Thanks for posting this! I always love visiting your blog!!

    Common Cents

  2. Roxeanne de Luca says:

    BRILLIANT observation about who society punishes in the East v. the West. IMHO, it’s indicative of the way in which we view women and men.

  3. Semper Why says:

    It’s a good question and I’d love to hear the answer.

    It’s pretty simple: The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Feminists aren’t fighting Islamic tradition, they’re fighting Christian tradition. I would suspect that feminists have no up close and personal experience with traditional Islamic customs, but they are swimming in Western culture.

    Western culture allows and encourages them to speak their minds and effect change. And let’s face it, historically they have effected change in Western culture. If you shove examples of Islamic culture in their face, they’ll make the appropriate “oh how horrible” noises, but they won’t seek out Islamic culture and confront it. I think it’s because they don’t swim in it.

    They’re in for a rude surprise when they find themselves up against a culture that hits back instead of pushes back.

  4. Armando says:

    I think another reason many feminists don’t actually say anything about the treatment of women in other cultures is because they don’t want to come across as “cultural imperialists”. It’s more or less what some Guardian writer said recently.


    What bugs me about these people is that the possibility that their values (which, per the link, they do NOT regard as universal) could be challenged and defeated on their own turf by radical Muslims either does not seem to have crossed their minds or is being suppressed for fear of being called a traitor to the Cause or, worse, “racist”. Just look at their (lack of) reaction to what’s going on in the Paris banlieues, Amsterdam, and Malmo.