Archive for September 18, 2009

One of the more reasonable arguments concerning the White Houses’ missile defense move is the cost savings it entails. It sounds pretty good but it is deceptive.

First of all political capital and possibility monetary capital was spent to get the permission to put the stuff there in the first place. Now that it will not be deployed that is all now a loss.

Second of all it means if either the technology or threat changes then we would have to spend it all again, only this time we would have less credibility and it would have a higher cost in political and financial capital, in fact it might not even be in time. Sort of like the four stage strategy of diplomacy via Sir Humphrey starting around 6 min in this clip or if you just want the meat at 7:40

If your goal is to actually do nothing then it’s a great plan. If your goal is you know actual deterrence it’s not a good idea. It’s like losing money in a machine and then just putting more in again instead of getting your quarters back first.

But Datechguy you say: Aren’t these missiles actually better than the ground stuff and more flexable? It’s the arugment in the LGF thread on the subject that was offered and here is my answer verbatim:

Those things are true in the physical sense but it is a worse deterrent in a political sense. If a country is under actual threat there is little question in the mind of the potential aggressor that it will use a deterrent under it’s own control on it’s own soil.

If the deterrent is not on their own soil then the political will of the guarantor is taken into effect. Europe’s graveyards are full of casualties of the lack of political will.

That’s why US troops South Korea are a more effective deterrent then a promise to deploy troops would be. It’s also why we actually had troops in Europe instead of relying on a nuclear deterrent. Your more likely to stay in the pot if you already have money in it.

That is the reality.

McCain/Johnson round 5

Posted: September 18, 2009 by datechguy in internet/free speech
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The 5th round opens with Stacy Landing again, after some initial jabs he throws the left:

In other words, you’re not missing anything at LGF you couldn’t get from Amanda Marcotte or Firedoglake.

The Press release bit is strong and doesn’t even include the Color of Change release.

After a setup punch he then Throws one to the Midsection:

This problem has nothing to do with Pamela. It never was about her — it’s about him. Now, less than two years after the onset of Chronic Degenerative Lizardmania, people are becoming genuinely concerned for Johnson’s well-being.

Myself, I’d be happy if he’d just put up a post called “Autumn Open Thread,” surrender the troll-hammer to one of his evil minions and take about a six-week rest somewhere calm and peaceful with no WiFi access.

That actually isn’t bad general advice, it’s a good thing to walk away from the net some time. You can always have some timed post or general essays to go up if you don’t use a guest blogger.

But then comes the Right:

And enjoy a nice hot cup of STFU, will ya? Stop trying to defend yourself, Charles, or trying to present your monomaniacal fixation as if it were the result of your sudden discovery that everyone who voted for Bush in 2004 has been goose-stepping toward Munich ever since.

Nobody’s buying it any more, Charles. There can be no ideological or political explanation for your behavior. People are calling you “Captain Queeg,” and laughing about it, but it’s really not funny. You need help or one of these days you’ll be shuffling around down by the rail yards muttering to yourself “banned! banned! banned!

But Johnson is not just taking a hit, he rears back and lands the racist and beating black kids cards squarely in the face of…Dan Riehl:

Now there’s true courage. If those black kids had tried something, Dan Riehl was ready. Man, he would have shown them.

Of course, they didn’t try anything. But the potential for serious violence was in the air! He could tell by their “poor diction.”

Oh no. That’s not racist at all.

Read the two posts in question are here You’ll note that the first post is a cache link that includes the deleted comments.

But the bottom line is if there is any counterpunching going on it is in comment threads for other posts, not in new posts themselves and I’m not inclined to search them.

That seems to amount to a TKO but that might be premature, after all a person’s blog is a person’s blog and not letting someone drive what you post may be just rope a dope.

Will McCain continue to strike, I think so. When he actually stops will it be a victory for Johnson? I think not but time will tell.

The more I see however the further I am heading toward Robert Stacy’s corner. Stay tuned.

Update: Never scored it. Clear Round for McCain 10-7, Scoring 49-45 after 5 and the ref is checking the corner to see if Johnson wants to continue.

A clip was played from Ann Curry’s interview with President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Morning Joe today. When asked if what he said means that Iran will not weaponize their nukes, he answers saying they don’t need it leading to the following exchange:

So does that mean your answer is no?

What do you mean by “No”? (That might not be exact when they play the clip again I’ll make sure to make it so.)

Curry then actually asks him if this is his final answer. She actually uses that phraseology.

The Irony of all of this is simply amazing. What was the truth last time when a president asked what the meaning of a simple word means?

I’m feeling better and better about this decision now.

Update: They didn’t replay the clip, I’m sure it will turn up somewhere.