…because I’m not doing another round of the McCain/Johnson fight because although Robert Stacy keeps firing relentlessly, (he has no choice as explained here) Charles has not been letting off a shot in posts (and I’m still not inclined to check all his internal comments, I may be out of work right now but I do have a life). This perfectly illustrates the correctness of the title of my first post on the subject:
Irresistible force vs immovable object: Johnson vs McCain
Meanwhile blog after blog has sided with Robert Stacy McCain very loudly indeed this while the only person who seems to have had a kind word for Charles is of all people Andrew Sullivan.
What do I think of all this? In case I haven’t made it clear I think Charles is wrong, I think he’s wrong about Robert Stacy, Wrong about Dan Riehl and Wrong about Hot Air. (although in fairness hot air should have mentioned that Charles sent them an e-mail stating that the initial actions against them were done without his knowledge or approval.) You might notice if you look at my blog there is a category that wasn’t there last week called:
Worth defending Publicly
all three blogs I just mentioned are listed there.
However if Charles believes he is right he is just not going to change, and he certainly isn’t going to be persuaded by someone who thinks he is wrong, to quote a comment I made elsewhere:
The problem is that it would seem to me it is his nature to go “all out” once he decides something is right, everyone who supports it is right and a friend. Once he thinks something is wrong than everyone who supports them is wrong and his skin isn’t as thick as it once was.
I’ve been hitting Charles a bit, with PUN-isment but there was something else in that comment that is also worth repeating:
Liberals are exactly the people that we NEED to bring over concerning the War on Terror. Johnson for all of his faults recognized the war for what it is right away and even now still links to Michael Yon and strongly supports the War and keeping Gitmo open. You can always change legislation you can’t un-lose a war or un-kill someone.
Personal issues not withstanding he has been a valuable ally in the war on terror and the subject is important enough to matter.
That’s why I’m still a registered user at LGF and still make my cases and arguments in comments and I intend to stay there unless he abandons the war on terror (highly unlikely) or until I’m banned.
Last night when I hit the sack I was contemplating the problem and something I posted in a thread over there hit me:
The problem there is you win elections by getting a majority, it’s hard to win when you exclude people.
For example if I was a GOP candidate and I was approaching a Ron Paul supporter I would emphasize my support for smaller government and opposition to abortion. If he brought up the Crazy uncle isolation/Israel stuff I would disagree with him but If wooing him I wouldn’t bring it up when making my initial point.
As Captain Renault said to Rick
How extravagant you are, throwing away women like that. Someday they may be scarce.
You win elections by finding areas of agreement with as many voters as possible and getting them to vote on you based on those areas.
So if there is going to be a prince Alfonso moment the first thing necessary is a point of agreement among all parties involved.
I intend to put up a post sometime later today titled “A statement of common principles” I intend to inform all the principles in the latest disputes to “sign” it in comments. As comments are approved here that will allow me to preclude a false affirmative. Any blogger who has posted on the subject is welcome to sign it in the name of their blog or themselves.
Now this doesn’t mean it will lead to anything resembling a resolution but ya gotta start somewhere and it’s my time to waste.
Update: One bit of Irony that just hit me. I’ve been thinking about this all night. This morning at Mass. Fr. Bob’s sermon was on reconciling enemies and on the saying “When you seek vengeance be prepared to dig two graves.”
Update 2: Well that didn’t take long to be Proudly Banned, but I had it coming, how dare I defend Rush Limbaugh, Honorary Lizardoid on LGF.
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Hey, DTG, stop hitting the snooze alarm and WAKE THE HELL UP.
Charles never targeted me until AFTER I came to Pamela Geller’s defense. It is CHARLES, and not me, who is seeking vengeance.
If you’d read some of these threads after they’d been updated — including responses to your comments — you might have learned something by now.
Neville Chamberlain’s mistake was in thinking he could negotiate with Hitler, as if Hitler were a reasonable statesman who wanted peace. But Hitler was a TOTALITARIAN, and totalitarians are liars, bullies and cowards by nature. They respect only resolute, determined and superior strength.
Charles Johnson is a malignant narcissist. That is the problem, and has been apparent ever since he started attacking Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer and other of his former “friends” whom now viciously libels at every opportunity.
Always nice to get some linky-love from a fellow Dr. Who fan. The Freema Agyeman googlebomb (who knew?) fueled my traffic for a few weeks while I was infrequent. Stop by again sometime.
Personally if I had been you I would have been seeking satisfaction from Charles since he slandered you. In a much smaller situation I was able to obtain satisfaction from him.
I used the word Vengeance because that is what my priest used at mass and I thought it was ironic. I actually think that although Geller was hit first, you were slandered worse. Of the people Charles has hit you have weren’t hit by a term that is losing it’s strength.
You are likely right and many indications suggest that is true, particularly the Hot air incident, but this isn’t World War II and the fate of Europe isn’t at stake the only people Charles is hurting is himself and his fellow “lizards” by all this nonsense. There is no question that you are much more experience in human nature but I really can’t see the harm.
Back in April I wrote a defense of Charles where I said:
and I closed as follows:
Seeing today what I see now I couldn’t write that same post. His actions remind me more and more of an elderly aunt of mine who is rapidly running out of people she is willing to talk to and who give a damn if she does. I still do because she is my Father’s sister and I owe his memory that.
I have 8 years invested in LGF and although I’ve not been popular lately there are people there worth salvaging. So I give it a shot. A penny ticket for a gain for the ninety and nine.
I’m no great evangelist but the Holy Spirit is, maybe the nudge in all that is needed. If not that’s life.
My wife would almost certainly agree with you, she’s much wiser than me.
Hey GS:
Very pleased to meet a fellow who fan. If you aren’t doing it already I strongly suggest you check out Rich’s comic blog where a great 5th/8th doctor story is currently in progress.
And of course my reviews of various Big finish audios if you aren’t familiar with them already.
Finding a fellow fan of the Doctor makes the entire post worth it.
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